# Cybershift community levels! **URL:** \ **Category:** Collaboration\ **Created:** [January 25, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584 "2023-01-25T03:33:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Taser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/taser/32/29517_2.png) [@Taser](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Taser)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/64 "2023-08-21T16:58:26Z")
> [@Sarge](#): > > really annoying What does really annoying mean? @Sarge Since when were there laws saying that you gotta make the player feel like its their fault in level design? Yea Yea, I get what you mean by the whole thing. Basically the whole idea of this level was to make sure that the player rages tons but keep on pushing through in search of victory (finish line). If you checked out the GD community levels. You’ll find that over half of the \>hard demons are like this. Like I can’t even make it to 2% of silent clubstep. Of course, people like Paqoe spent hundreds of hours worth of attempts, and in the end, they did the impossible. What you consider annoying is actually extremely intentional (ofc, am I the only one who tries to make a hard level yet it seems I’m the only guy who has to eat those words). Life as a level designer whose levels get called “impossible” and “a pain in the ###”, well… there is a nice ring to it. Now getting with your other complaints, the staircase on the first part was actually to show how difficult the level really is, an appetizer to say the sort, if u cannot time right, then this level will take years to do. Everything in this level is possible if you are truly wanting the victory. ---
**Author:** ![jwunderl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/jwunderl/32/5308_2.png) [@jwunderl](https://forum.makecode.com/u/jwunderl)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/65 "2023-08-21T17:01:37Z")
For what it’s worth, there’s a huge genre of romhacking games (often older, but pretty much cross the board) called [Kaizo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizo) that is pretty much built on this sort of feeling; there are plenty of examples around but if you look at any of the kaizo mario world runs from gdq over the years you might get some, ahem, _inspiration_ for future levels. ---
**Author:** ![Luke](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/luke/32/32519_2.png) [@Luke](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Luke)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/67 "2023-08-21T21:09:21Z")
One very common mistake all game devs make (including myself) is because you’re the only playtester, the levels get unrealistically difficult for an average player since it’s almost impossible to gauge the right level of difficulty. I’m not sure if this applies or not it’s just something I wanted to point out which may be helpful for other levels. Try thinking from a player’s perspective, not your own. ---
**Author:** ![Sarge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/sarge/32/19590_2.png) [@Sarge](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Sarge)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/68 "2023-08-21T21:20:31Z")
> [@Taser](#): > > What does really annoying mean Hard (the levels you’re referencing) - a level with substantial difficulty that’s caused by a set of hard setups, platforms, passages or whatever, but the gist is that you’re able to master them and consistently clear them. One you’re good at that, it’s a breeze. If you suck at those levels, it’s a skill issue Annoying - a level with difficulty that’s based on exploiting an annoying feature (or bug/poor game design) of the game to bump the difficulty significantly by making inconsistent sections. That’s why I pointed out the staircase at the start, it’s difficulty is derived from the fact that the game isn’t great at registering inputs consistently. > [@Taser](#): > > Life as a level designer whose levels get called “impossible” and “a pain in the ###”, well… there is a nice ring to it. Only when the levels are rewarding in the end 😉 Now, not to discourage you from making levels, quite the opposite. I think it’s great if you have fun making/playing these levels, i’m just saying that I myself find a victory much more rewarding if the level was hard but balanced, instead of hard and really frustrating. ---
**Author:** ![PixelDoodle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/pixeldoodle/32/24129_2.png) [@PixelDoodle](https://forum.makecode.com/u/PixelDoodle)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/69 "2023-08-21T21:45:02Z")
I’m gonna be real with you taser… I did this to your level so I could at least SEE what I was doing: ![I made it more clear.](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/makecode/original/2X/a/a007431b3735ef991d6b250d2429b4ce307d14c8.png) I legit spent 20 minutes trying to clear up the level, while still keeping everything in order. ---
**Author:** ![Taser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/taser/32/29517_2.png) [@Taser](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Taser)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/70 "2023-08-22T16:24:22Z")
This level feels like a collab now @PixelDoodle pretty good rework however ngl ---
**Author:** ![Taser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/taser/32/29517_2.png) [@Taser](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Taser)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/71 "2023-08-22T16:24:28Z")
keep that huge block of spikes for that tight shift at the start, its meant to make the difficulty harder ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/makecode/original/2X/7/7e8c5633385436782b6ff10c9a9ec21cab689441.png) @PixelDoodle ---
**Author:** ![Taser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/taser/32/29517_2.png) [@Taser](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Taser)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/72 "2023-08-22T16:28:07Z")
@PixelDoodle what happened to the purple diamond backdrop? ---
**Author:** ![PixelDoodle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/pixeldoodle/32/24129_2.png) [@PixelDoodle](https://forum.makecode.com/u/PixelDoodle)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/73 "2023-08-22T16:32:39Z")
I dont really think backgrounds fit the game. It takes the player of. ---
**Author:** ![Taser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/taser/32/29517_2.png) [@Taser](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Taser)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/74 "2023-08-22T18:26:22Z")
Could u at least make the white tiles u used for the backdrop a more darker color @PixelDoodle ---
**Author:** ![PixelDoodle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/pixeldoodle/32/24129_2.png) [@PixelDoodle](https://forum.makecode.com/u/PixelDoodle)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/75 "2023-08-22T20:36:13Z")
Yea i can do that! ---
**Author:** ![Taser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/taser/32/29517_2.png) [@Taser](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Taser)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 6:29am UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/76 "2023-08-24T06:29:52Z")
Maybe this tile would work for the backdrop @PixelDoodle ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/makecode/original/2X/1/15ecf400056d15cf2b51009f029b5ccb17034290.png) (I dunno who made it) ---
**Author:** ![Taser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/taser/32/29517_2.png) [@Taser](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Taser)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/77 "2023-08-28T16:32:58Z")
eyo @PixelDoodle I was gonna update Yomi, but ofc, are u working on v10.3 already? ---
**Author:** ![PixelDoodle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/pixeldoodle/32/24129_2.png) [@PixelDoodle](https://forum.makecode.com/u/PixelDoodle)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/78 "2023-08-28T16:49:46Z")
Yep already working. (And its 10.2) ---
**Author:** ![Taser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/taser/32/29517_2.png) [@Taser](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Taser)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/79 "2023-08-28T21:55:34Z")
What? Wasn’t Yomi in v10.2? @PixelDoodle oh no, did u remove it? ---
**Author:** ![PixelDoodle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/pixeldoodle/32/24129_2.png) [@PixelDoodle](https://forum.makecode.com/u/PixelDoodle)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/80 "2023-08-28T23:07:27Z")
Don’t worry it’s in my version. (How else would I edit the tilemap) And, I don’t use the versions you call them, I use whatever version update I most recently editied. ---
**Author:** ![Taser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/taser/32/29517_2.png) [@Taser](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Taser)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/81 "2023-08-31T16:28:40Z")
I wonder if its possible to build an extreme demon icon ---
**Author:** ![Sarge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/sarge/32/19590_2.png) [@Sarge](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Sarge)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/82 "2023-09-01T16:27:53Z")
I think @AbstractDesigner has done that in Roller already, if I remember it’s one of the unused assets. I think I saw it when I was editing the code (again not sure idrk) ---
**Author:** ![AbstractDesigner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/abstractdesigner/32/22531_2.png) [@AbstractDesigner](https://forum.makecode.com/u/AbstractDesigner)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/83 "2023-09-05T15:01:36Z")
You’re right, I made sprites of all the difficulties. Feel free to use them, @Taser! ---
**Author:** ![Taser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.makecode.com/taser/32/29517_2.png) [@Taser](https://forum.makecode.com/u/Taser)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584/84 "2023-09-07T21:29:39Z")
So I used this tile for the background of Yomi and it actually had quite a good result! ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/makecode/original/2X/7/75d46ee7307cbcfefba9e5fdd5786ed65dd1ff50.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/makecode/original/2X/e/eca3d2c500a4ea6f67cb2e636aad76f1e6e79ea8.png) [Previous page](https://forum.makecode.com/t/cybershift-community-levels/17584.md?page=3)